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0005540OCamlOCaml generalpublic2012-03-14 22:152013-07-12 17:41
Reporterguesdon 
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PrioritynormalSeverityfeatureReproducibilityhave not tried
StatusacknowledgedResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version4.00.0+dev 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0005540: Installing more modules + separate Dynlink from Toplevellib
DescriptionWould it be possible to:
- install the following modules: Errors, Location
  These are used by Toploop and Topdirs and it would be useful to be able to access the functions in them from third party tools. Moreover, PR#5507 suggest using Location.t through ocamldoc; I would do so if it was possible to access the Location module from custom generators' code.

- separate dynlink from toplevellib, requiring to link with dynlink.cma when linking with toplevellib.cma ? As it is now, it's impossible to use toplevellib and dynlink in the same executable (core dump or strange behaviour after load through dynlink).

That's all :)
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(0007164)
xleroy (administrator)
2012-03-26 15:03

Installing more of / all of the compiler interfaces is being considered.

For your second wish (dynlink / toplevel compatibility), this raises some non trivial issues. Could you please tell us more about the usage scenario(s) that you have in mind?
 
(0007177)
gerd (reporter)
2012-03-26 22:46

In GODI we install the compiler interfaces in a separate directory. This turned out as very helpful - some packages interacting deeply with the compiler can now be built without requiring the full ocaml sources.

I'd suggest to put them simply into a subdir of the stdlib.
(0007180)
guesdon (manager)
2012-03-27 08:45

About dynlink/toplevel compatibility, I encountered the problem twice:
1. In Chamo: this is a source code editor in ocaml, able to evaluate ocaml code to perform some operations (à la emacs) and able to load plugins, too.
2. In Stog, a static web site generator, able to evaluate ocaml code and display (or not) the toplevel result, for example to show real examples, tested when the site is compiled; Stog also offers the possibilty to load plugins to define new callbacks associated to some tags.

A workaround exists: in bytecode version, rather than linking with dynlink, I load plugins with Topdirs.load_file. But it complicates the build process.

In native code versions, no problem since toplevellib.cmxa does not exist. Would it be hard to have a native version of the toplevel ?
(0007227)
protz (manager)
2012-03-29 10:49

Moving to acknowledged since we probably want to package the compiler modules somehow.
(0007637)
xleroy (administrator)
2012-07-04 20:01

First wish (install more of the compiler internals) granted in 4.00.

Second wish (toplevel & dynlink that work together well) needs more work.
(0007673)
hongboz (developer)
2012-07-10 01:43
edited on: 2012-07-10 01:44

another use case for mixing dynlink with toplevellib, is that you can do some compile-time evaluation like D language, that's to say the user can specify which part of the program should be evaluated at compile time.


- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2012-03-14 22:15 guesdon New Issue
2012-03-26 15:03 xleroy Note Added: 0007164
2012-03-26 15:03 xleroy Severity trivial => feature
2012-03-26 15:03 xleroy Status new => feedback
2012-03-26 22:46 gerd Note Added: 0007177
2012-03-27 08:45 guesdon Note Added: 0007180
2012-03-27 08:45 guesdon Status feedback => new
2012-03-29 10:49 protz Note Added: 0007227
2012-03-29 10:49 protz Status new => acknowledged
2012-07-04 20:01 xleroy Note Added: 0007637
2012-07-04 20:02 xleroy Target Version 4.00.0+dev =>
2012-07-06 16:16 doligez Target Version => 4.01.0+dev
2012-07-10 01:43 hongboz Note Added: 0007673
2012-07-10 01:44 hongboz Note Edited: 0007673 View Revisions
2012-07-31 13:36 doligez Target Version 4.01.0+dev => 4.00.1+dev
2012-09-06 19:32 frisch Target Version 4.00.1+dev => 4.00.2+dev
2013-07-12 17:41 doligez Target Version 4.00.2+dev =>


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