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From: Sven LUTHER <luther@d...>
Subject: Re: Newsgroup for Caml?
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 12:07:49PM +0900, Jacques Garrigue wrote:
> From: Markus Mottl <mottl@miss.wu-wien.ac.at>
> 
> > I wouldn't mind using a newsgroup. However, there is already one called
> > "comp.lang.ml", which has very low traffic: seems that people who are
> > interested in OCaml (= not SML) have all signed up to the mailing list... :)
> > 
> > Instead of creating a new one, the more imperialistically minded among us
> > might choose to seize power over there...
> 
> Well, the problem is that comp.lang.ml is a moderated newsgroup, and
> that it is directly tied to the SML mailing list. I see no point in
> changing that.
> 
> If Pierre is for a newsgroup, it is probably because the flow on the
> caml-list is becoming very time-consuming to moderate. So it would
> probably be nice to have a non-moderated comp.lang.caml.
> 
> Also I'm not sure that people who don't like newsgroups would really
> enjoy reading such a non-moderated caml-list, with the flame-wars and
> spam one can expect.
> 
> What about keeping a moderated caml-list mainly for announcements, the
> newsgroup being there for questions and discussions?
> 
> I know it's always hard to distinguish, but for me news and mailing
> lists are complementary, and I would prefer to have mailing lists
> directly pour in my inbox, rather than have to discriminate them to
> avoid overflow.

What would be the problem with two mailing list, one moderated, the other not. 

Then on top of this two, you add a news bridge, so people who want news style
access can get it. and people prefering mails can have that too.

Beside, most good mail reader/mail setups have facilities to sort mail in
different mail boxes, and to offer threaded mail reading, which much
facilitate the lecture of high traffic mailing lists.

One thing that would be nice to do though would be to clearly labelate the
mail comming from the caml lists, since this is not done as of today, and i
have to have lot of differentrules in procmail just for caml-list :

:0                      # Caml
* ^ Resent-To: .*caml-redist@pauillac.inria.fr
lists/caml
:0                      # Caml
* ^CC: .*caml-list@inria.fr
lists/caml
:0                      # Caml
* ^Sender: .*Pierre.Weis@inria.fr
lists/caml
:0                      # Caml
* ^Resent-To: .*caml-redistribution@pauillac.inria.fr
lists/caml
:0                      # Caml
* ^Cc: .*caml-redistribution@pauillac.inria.fr
lists/caml
:0                      # Caml
* ^To: .*caml-redistribution@pauillac.inria.fr
lists/caml

a X-Mailing-List or something such should be fine.

Friendly,

Svne LUTHER