At 10:11 PM +0200 4/1/01, Sven LUTHER wrote:
>  > What about using HTML-interfaces
>>  instead of standard GUIs like Tcl and GTK?
>
>Well, i think this may be a good idea (sun is doing this) if you need to run
>your code remotely and for system configuration and administration.
>
>But, ...
>
>Most web browser are huge beast, running slowly and ressource hungry. Also i
>think you can do less things with html than you can do with modern toolkits.
>
>Also there is the question of bandwith.

I think cvsweb is a good example.

I'm sitting here in New Zealand on a 56k modem, doing development 
work on Gwydion Dylan, with the cvs server being in Germany.  If I 
want to see, say, the change log for the CREDITS file then I have two 
choices.  I can type [1]...

   cvs -d :pserver:anoncvs@berlin.ccc.de:/home/cvsroot log src/CREDITS

... which takes just over five seconds to fetch the results, or I can 
enter into my browser the URL...

   http://www.ccc.de/cgi-bin/cvsweb/gd/src/CREDITS

...which takes about two seconds, is prettier, and is more functional 
in that I am then only a click (and two more seconds) away from 
seeing the source of any version I want, doing diffs between 
versions, getting source annotated with who last changed each line 
etc.

It's just not obvious that HTML is slower than the alternatives.

-- Bruce

[1] no, of course I don't type all that -- I'm more likely to hit 
"C-x v l" in emacs (because Eric Raymond taught emacs how to do 
that), and emacs could equally easily be taught how to fire up a 
Netscape window with the cvsweb page. (actually, I taught MPW Shell 
to do that for me, because I know how to customize it better than I 
know how to customize emacs)
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