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From: Eric Newhuis <enew@b...>
Subject: Re: Do you mean that C# will be at its head? (was Re: [Caml-list] Jihad)
You can rest assured I was not referring to C#, but the common language
nirvana that Microsoft seems to be hyping.

C# is obviously "Microsoft Search & Redevelopment".  And I think it is
amazing that smart people like Anders Hejlsberg enjoy regurgitating Java at
any price.

Yes I agree with you and perhaps I am overly optimistic about Microsoft's
willingness to help bring Caml to the masses.

I am also aware of a few of the difficulties in targeting MSIL.

Nevertheless I am hopeful and I will continue the struggle.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla" <>
To: "Eric Newhuis" <>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:44 AM
Subject: Do you mean that C# will be at its head? (was Re: [Caml-list]

> On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:20:09AM -0600, Eric Newhuis wrote:
> > An Early Hope?
> >
> > Microsoft's .NET platform may play the role of catalyst in this Jihad.
> > For finally we may see theoretically superior research-grade
> > languages make their way into the mainstream with a newfound ability
> > to use a common library platform (i.e. Microsoft's platform).  Once
> When you speak of "theoretically superior research-grade languages", do
> you mean C#?  Because, if you do, I really have to laugh at what is
> otherwise a well-reasoned, well-thought-out rant.  I've seen what C#
> looks like and, well, what I can say is that Anders Hejlsberg seems to
> have opened a "Java for Dummies" book when he began designing the
> language!  Nothing about it incorporates any of the cutting edge
> research into language design that you refer to elsewhere.  All it is
> really is the marriage of C++ and Java that combines most of the good
> parts of both.  To call it a "theoretically superior research-grade
> language" is the funniest thing I've heard all year.  At best, it's an
> evolutionary improvement on an old design, a design which you, in the
> rest of your rant, blast violently.
> No, I doubt that .NET will be the catalyst for this "Jihad" you talk
> about.  Microsoft is not pushing any of the alternative languages like
> OCaml as its spearhead for .NET, whether they funded development for it
> or not.  They "invented" (using a loose definition of "invented") C# for
> that purpose, and C# is still deep in the family of languages you hit.
> --
> Rafael R. Sevilla <>   +63(2)   8177746 ext.
> Programmer, Inter.Net Philippines                +63(917) 4458925
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