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Date: 2002-10-19 (03:57)
From: olczyk@i...
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: "ocaml_beginners"::[] Is Caml a fraud ( especially on Windows )?
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:08:15 -0400, Oleg <>

>On Friday 18 October 2002 03:03 pm, Thaddeus L. Olczyk wrote:
>> >Stroustup prefers C++ to any other language for most
>> >tasks, Ritchie said that if he was only allowed to
>> >keep one language on a desert island, it will be C,
>> >etc.
>> And Pierre  Weis says that I shouldn't call people liars, but when
>> I see a post like this...
>> There is a big difference between saying " if I could only use one
>> language it would be C", and saying "C is the best language".
>> Stroustrup has said  and continues to say that he refuses to get
>> into the debate about what the best language is. Last I looked it
>> was the stated on the FAQ on his web page.
>The fact that he "refuses to get into the debate" does not mean he has no 
>clear language preferences.  Common sense suggests that he uses C++ for at 
>least 51% of his programming. 
Well of course. After all he probably knows it better then any other
language ;) , and we all tend to lean towards the language we know the

That's not what the claim was though. The original claim by me was
that when I hear people ( especially people close to the progress of
the language ) go around saying things like "X is the greatest
language of all time" or  "once you learn X you will never want to
program in anything else" then I start wondering if  "the Emperor
has no clothes". 

The reply was that all major actors in a language act as rabid
proponents of the language. They use the examples of Ritchie and
Stroustrup. I don't know whether or not it's true of Ritchie.  But I
know that Stroustrup does not follow that example.
that language

>BTW, good luck with your quest to find your favorite language.
It's not about finding a "favorite language". Its about learning 
a new language each year. Part of that entails spending time
working with the language. It also entails avoiding getting bogged 
down in installing things.

> It would be 
>nice though if you didn't cross-post discussions started on one list to 
>another, no matter how all-important your replies may seem to you.
I already decided not to. If all the posts ( assuming people don't
change the topic ) stayed within one thread, it would be OK. What
I failed to take into account is that the mailing lists append the
name. So things tend to get out of threads. My mistake. Sorry.
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