> On Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 06:34:29PM -0800, Chris Hecker wrote:
>> Here are the results on this machine, which shows ocamlopt.opt just
>> about  matching msvc6.  This isn't trying to be a formal test, so I
>> don't account  for things like the difference in code complexity
>> (they're both games),
>
> My experience shows that ocaml code is very often twice (or more) as
> short as C equivalent. For example for language shootout sources:
>
> language        loc
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ansic:         1403
> cpp:           1107
> ml:             646
>
> Of course one may argue, that for bigger programs C gets less verbose
> (once you have written lists, hash tables, trees etc).
>
>> system headers included in C files (which would favor C if they were
>> cleaned up) or the fact that my makefile for caml doesn't pass
>> multiple ml  files to the compiler (which should favor ocamlopt), etc.
>
> In case of C compiler you should enable precompiled headers (if it
> supports one), because ocaml compiler uses some form of it.
>
>> compiler      sec    loc  loc/sec
>> ------------  ---  -----  -------
>> msvc6          12  27865     2322
>> ocamlopt       13  15483     1191
>> ocamlopt.opt    7  15483     2211
>
> Combined with semantic density, this makes ocamlopt twice as fast as
> msvc.

Sorry that I must say that, but these comparisons are absolutely
nonsense. I have some ocaml sources that are _much_ slower (e.g.
2500 lines, but compilations take longer than 20 seconds), and I know
that you can slow down C++ compilers by turning on optimization
switches. So the question arises: which features take which time?

My impression is that some type inference tasks can be very slow
for ocaml, especially if subtyping is involved. This feature is not
available in C++. On the other hand, C++ compilers usually implement
better optimization techniques, and these take time, too.

Gerd
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