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From: Alexander Epifanov <epifanov@k...>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml killer
On 09:56 Tue 27 Jan     , Alex Baretta wrote:
> Alexander Epifanov wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I have read message about Skala language, and I think (it's only my IMHO),
> >that ocaml have no future without some features, like concurrent 
> >programming
> >(CP) and chance to use libraries from the other languages.
> 
> Thanks for sharing you "humble opinion" with us. Let me share mine with 
> you: my company has chosen Ocaml as it's primary general purpose 
> language and is devoting most of it's R&D efforts towards new 
> development based on/for Ocaml.
> 
> >1) Erlang uses build in CP, but Skala has a library for it, IMHO it would 
> >be a
> >good way for ocaml feature. Thread module isn't enough for effective usage 
> >of
> >CP.
> 
> Ever heard about message passing? Did you ever try running a 
> multithreaded application on a server cluster?
Everybody has server clusters?
> 
> >2) No one would use ocaml without libraries, and it's so hard to rewrite 
> >them
> >all in ocaml. external functions aren't enough to use libraries from 
> >Languages
> >like java or c++.
> 
> No one. Except maybe Xavier et al. in the Cristal group. Except maybe 
> myself and all of my colleagues. Except all of those who subscribe to 
> the mailing list. Except hundreds of researchers and students.
You want to use ocaml for yourself only? Do You need more popularity of
ocaml ? OCaml isn't used a lot for commercial projects.
> 
> How about "No one you know would use Ocaml with Java bindings".  No one +
> I know would use a language with Java bindings for any realistic project.
> 
> >Are any plans about these two features exists ?
> 
> I definitely hope Xavier will not waste his time coding JNI's to use 
> ocaml within Java.
I agree with you, JNI isn't the best solution. But what time do you need to
implement the part of CPAN's libraries for example ? Ocaml is the great
language for the BIG projects. but it hasn't simple libraries for small
projects. Of course, It doesn't need them for "academical" language. 
> 
> Alex

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