On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 10:14:29AM -0700, David Brown wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 01:40:28AM -0700, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
> 
> > Advanced package management is not particularly critical, however.
> > After countless years of windows, 2 years of Slackware, and about a
> > year of Gentoo, I'd say it only saves maybe an hour or two per month.
> > (I'm using Windows and Slackware as examples of systems with no
> > significant automated package management: autoconf == wizard
> > installer)
> 
> Interesting argument.  It would be hard to describe how much time good
> package management saves me, since without it, there would just be many
> things I wouldn't do.  If I were to try and upgrade things as frequently
> as I do now, I would probably spend 5-10 hours a week just doing the
> upgrades.

I see your perspective, and share it, since I upgrade constantly.  However, I'm
guessing it is the ease of upgrading that causes this, not any critical need for
constant update.  So I don't think it is a sound premise to include all of this
time in the comparison.

This risks getting off topic unless I mention GODI, the OCaml package manager.
I use CVS versions of OCaml and many other libraries, so I don't use it.  As a
consequence, I can't use my system's package management either.  It just means I
don't get a new OCaml CVS very regularly, but this has little impact on my
development speed or pleasure.

Kenn

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