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From: Jonathan Bryant <jtbryant@v...>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Caml on intel-OSX
I have OCaml 3.08.3 up an running on an AMD64 box running Mandrake
10.0.  It compiled beautifully under GODI (ocamlc. ocamlc.opt, ocamlopt,
ocamlopt.opt, etc...).  It might be a Debian bug...

--Jonathan

On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 18:51, John Skaller wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 18:20 +0200, padiolea@irisa.fr wrote:
> 
> > > Lol! no, it is a simple question. Can I make a bytecode program
> > > and just ship it an expect it to run? No. So what else is required?
> > 
> > I guess that if your bytecode program require some external libraries,
> > such as for instance if you do a "open Dbm"  then you must
> > have too this library.
> > I think that ocamlrun only include code to handle the Pervasive
> > library.
> 
> The code uses only (a) the standard library (Hashtbl and so on),
> (b) the Unix library, and (c) Bignums. Therefore the bytecode
> only requires support to be found in the standard distribution.
> 
> I have a suspicion that one needs to '-custom' link somehow,
> to make a suitable single bytecode interpreter. The desire
> here is to *avoid* building Ocaml from source on the
> target platform, instead to use pre-built binaries,
> or, at worst, build these binaries from source,
> excluding the full Ocaml toolkit -- the compiler isn't
> required since the program is already compiled
> to bytecode.
> 
> Both myself and my friend are trying to build the Felix
> system on diverse platforms, and make it available easily
> to potential users: this includes not only Unix like systems,
> but also Windows, Apple, and IBM platforms. At present, he 
> has got his hands on an Intel/Mac platform for a very limited time,
> (at the actual release conference) previously we worked
> on an IBM PPC64/Linux platform, G4 and G5 OSX platforms,
> and I'm trying to make the system build on native 
> Windows Win32 (XP) without Cygwin, using  MSVC++ compiler 
> and prebuilt Ocaml .. as well as trying to make both
> a Godi and Debian packages ... I wait with dread the release
> of 64 bit XP ..
> 
> So we're looking at ways to get the system up and running
> on new and weird platforms with the minimum of fuss.
> Both for ourselves as developers, and for end users.
> 
> Whilst I personally prefer the ocaml native code compiler,
> at present I can't use it on my AMD64 as there appears
> to be a code generation bug in it for that platform --
> so I'm using bytecode even for core development,
> (and it's a real pain for the Debian packaging .. since
> the system autodetects the native code compiler and tries
> to use it even though it doesn't work: there is no 
> opportunity to intervene manually in Debian autobuilds)
> 
> So we're looking at ways to get the system up and running
> on new and weird platforms with the minimum of fuss.
> Both for ourselves as developers, and for end users.
> Solving this problem 'satisfactorily' seems harder
> than writing a compiler :)
> 
> -- 
> John Skaller, skaller at users.sf.net
> PO Box 401 Glebe, NSW 2037, Australia Ph:61-2-96600850 
> Download Felix here: http://felix.sf.net
> 
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