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| Date: | -- (:) |
| From: | Bardur Arantsson <spam@s...> |
| Subject: | Re: announce: callbacks-0.1 |
Christophe Raffalli wrote:
> Maas-Maarten Zeeman a écrit :
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>> link: third item of:
>>>
>>> http://www.lama.univ-savoie.fr/~raffalli/?page=soft&lang=en
>>>
>>> comment and idea are welcome !
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like a nice idea. As the author of ocaml-expat a binding I've
>> also worked with c -> ocaml callbacks.
>>
>> It is not really clear to me what problem you are trying to solve. It
>> is not very difficult for somebody writing a Ocaml binding to come up
>> with a solution which is easy to call an ocaml function value from c.
>>
>> What I did was create one fixed c-callback functions which:
>>
>> receive c-parameters
>> transform them to ocaml-values
>> lookup the ocaml callback "cb" in a tuple (set earlier from ocaml),
>
>
> This is that step I want to avoid ... not mainly for performance,
Now, I'll freely admit that I haven't tested it specifically, but I
suspect performance will be worse when using register_global_root () to
register callback closures instead of just using a mapping from "int"
(or whatever type your callback identifier would be on the C side) to
closures "stored" on the OCaml side. There was a post on this list not
too long ago which exposed efficiency issues with register_global_root
when registering lots and lots of roots.
>but
> because there are some cases where you do not know which callback you
> should call (this was the case for one of the glut callback, I don't
> recall which one, and it was a bit tricky for glutTimer). It happens
> that in glut, the current window or current menu is properly set before
> calling the callback ... but there may be other library, more purely
> functional, with no concept of "current window" ...
>
For any C library using callbacks there will *always* be *some* way to
distinguish which event/object caused the callback. The reason is
simple: Creating callback functions/closures on the fly is impossible(*)
in C, or, in other words the callback function itself can't possibly
carry enough information to distinguish callbacks from different
events/objects. If there isn't enough information to distinguish what
caused the callback, the callback would be pointless.
(*) Well, you can generate machine code on the fly, but no sane library
will force you to do this.
--
Bardur Arantsson
<bardur@imada.sdu.dk>
<bardur@scientician.net>
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