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Date: | 2005-09-08 (23:33) |
From: | Bardur Arantsson <spam@s...> |
Subject: | Re: announce: callbacks-0.1 |
Christophe Raffalli wrote: > Maas-Maarten Zeeman a écrit : > >> >> Hello, >> >>> link: third item of: >>> >>> http://www.lama.univ-savoie.fr/~raffalli/?page=soft&lang=en >>> >>> comment and idea are welcome ! >>> >> >> Sounds like a nice idea. As the author of ocaml-expat a binding I've >> also worked with c -> ocaml callbacks. >> >> It is not really clear to me what problem you are trying to solve. It >> is not very difficult for somebody writing a Ocaml binding to come up >> with a solution which is easy to call an ocaml function value from c. >> >> What I did was create one fixed c-callback functions which: >> >> receive c-parameters >> transform them to ocaml-values >> lookup the ocaml callback "cb" in a tuple (set earlier from ocaml), > > > This is that step I want to avoid ... not mainly for performance, Now, I'll freely admit that I haven't tested it specifically, but I suspect performance will be worse when using register_global_root () to register callback closures instead of just using a mapping from "int" (or whatever type your callback identifier would be on the C side) to closures "stored" on the OCaml side. There was a post on this list not too long ago which exposed efficiency issues with register_global_root when registering lots and lots of roots. >but > because there are some cases where you do not know which callback you > should call (this was the case for one of the glut callback, I don't > recall which one, and it was a bit tricky for glutTimer). It happens > that in glut, the current window or current menu is properly set before > calling the callback ... but there may be other library, more purely > functional, with no concept of "current window" ... > For any C library using callbacks there will *always* be *some* way to distinguish which event/object caused the callback. The reason is simple: Creating callback functions/closures on the fly is impossible(*) in C, or, in other words the callback function itself can't possibly carry enough information to distinguish callbacks from different events/objects. If there isn't enough information to distinguish what caused the callback, the callback would be pointless. (*) Well, you can generate machine code on the fly, but no sane library will force you to do this. -- Bardur Arantsson <bardur@imada.sdu.dk> <bardur@scientician.net> - In my weaker moments I almost pity them, but then I remind myself: They want to teach. Bart Simpson, 'The Simpsons'