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| Date: | -- (:) |
| From: | Asfand Yar Qazi <email@a...> |
| Subject: | Re: [Caml-list] STM support in OCaml |
yoann padioleau wrote: >>>You make several claims: >>> >>>STM is not lock free. >>>STM is not useful on a small number of processors >>> >>>As for claim 1. "Lock-free" doesn't mean what you think it does. >> >>I know what STM does, thank you: I intend to implement it >>myself in my own programming language. Maybe you should >>read more carefully. >> >>I said "protected by a mutex under the hood." which means >>sure, the programmer is not writing locks, but they're used >>in the implementation and the associated costs are still paid. > > > I have read (very fastly) the atomcaml paper and I don't think they use "mutex under the hood". > It seems that they just log stuff and rollback. I guess that when you want to implement > STM on multiprocessor you may need to mutex stuff (the internal data structures maintained by the STM runtime), > but as ocaml runtime does not use multiprocessor, they dont need it. > Also, from what I remember, STM is "optimistic", while conventional lock-based design is "pessimistic" - thereby allowing STM based code to spend less time checking for locks or something, which apparently makes it quicker. But, I'll lets the experts explain it :-)