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From: Adrien <camaradetux@g...>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: thousands of CPU cores
2008/7/15 Adrien <camaradetux@gmail.com>:
> 2008/7/15 Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de>:
>>
>> Well, there's now SFU for Windows (but only for XP Professional and
>> Windows 2003, not for XP Home and Vista, AFAIK). That's a cool solution
>> when you want to run Win32 and POSIX programs on the same system, and
>> maybe an alternative to using virtualization. But it is nothing for
>> developing consumer programs on Windows.
>>
>> Btw, has something tried to compile O'Caml on SFU? It's a 230M free
>> download. There seems to be gcc and lots of GNU stuff, too (yes, it's
>> from MS...).
>
> Well, I did a few months ago. For those who don't know, SFU (Services
> For Unix) provides approximately the same features as cygwin.
> SFU works really well and is professional : you use the installer and
> you're done. It's usually easier to get an SFU build than a mingw or a
> cygwin one.
>
> There's a catch however : it works too well !
> It's certainly surprising but SFU gives you an Unix-like environment
> and you'll certainly try to interact with windows and that's where the
> problem lies. For example, paths will clash iirc.
> However it is worth being investigated. These are s-nt.h :
>
> First, the official one for windows :
>
> #define OCAML_OS_TYPE "Win32"
>
> #undef BSD_SIGNALS
> #define HAS_STRERROR
> #define HAS_SOCKETS
> #define HAS_GETCWD
> #define HAS_UTIME
> #define HAS_DUP2
> #define HAS_GETHOSTNAME
> #define HAS_MKTIME
> #define HAS_PUTENV
> #define HAS_LOCALE
>
>
> Then the one you can obtain when configure'ing under SFU :
>
> #define OCAML_OS_TYPE "Unix"
> #define OCAML_STDLIB_DIR "/usr/local/lib/ocaml"
> #define POSIX_SIGNALS
> #define HAS_GETRUSAGE
> #define HAS_TIMES
> #define HAS_TERMCAP
> #define HAS_SOCKETS
> #define HAS_INET_ATON
> #define HAS_UNISTD
> #define HAS_OFF_T
> #define HAS_DIRENT
> #define HAS_REWINDDIR
> #define HAS_LOCKF
> #define HAS_MKFIFO
> #define HAS_GETCWD
> #define HAS_GETWD
> #define HAS_GETPRIORITY
> #define HAS_UTIME
> #define HAS_DUP2
> #define HAS_FCHMOD
> #define HAS_TRUNCATE
> #define HAS_SYS_SELECT_H
> #define HAS_SELECT
> #define HAS_SYMLINK
> #define HAS_WAITPID
> #define HAS_GETGROUPS
> #define HAS_TERMIOS
> #define HAS_SETITIMER
> #define HAS_GETHOSTNAME
> #define HAS_UNAME
> #define HAS_GETTIMEOFDAY
> #define HAS_MKTIME
> #define HAS_SETSID
> #define HAS_PUTENV
> #define HAS_LOCALE
> #define HAS_MMAP
> #define HAS_SIGWAIT
>
>
> It's a bit longer !
>
> I have since uninstalled SFU but could reinstall it, virtualBox will
> be handy (except that compiling software inside a virtual machine is
> everything but funny).
> By the way, SFU is available for Vista and should work under XP Home
> (Home is like Pro with a few things removed). Microsoft announced
> there would be no other version of SFU [1] but SFU is not their
> product, it is Interix's and I think Interix will continue to ship new
> versions though these probably won't be free.
>
> Also, the utilities are not necessarily Gnu, they provide BSD ones. ;)
> But, but, ... I just saw debian-interix which claims "since the last
> buildd run there are now over 1000 packages available for
> interix-i386", and even better, the project is still active, the
> latest is dated from "2008-06-30". I definitely have to install SFU
> again ! (I'll just need a windows partition bigger than 4GB...).
>
> [1] : http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/its_the_end_of_the_line_for_microsofts_services_for_unix_product.html
>
>
> The not-so-funny part is that applications compiled under SFU need SFU
> installed to run so this limits portability but ocaml-compiled
> programs may not have this problem. The only way to know more about
> this is certainly to experiment. Also, I don't know how free is SFU's
> license.
>
>
>  ---
>
> Adrien Nader
>


It may not run on XP Home contrary to what I stated. Debian-interix
says the following in its INSTALL file :
  * On Windows XP make sure, you
     DON'T "Use simple file sharing"
XP Home can only "use simple file sharing" so sfu may not work on XP
Home (though you can get the required functionnality).


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Adrien Nader