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  date="2002-07-12T14:05:48"
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  date="2002-10-19T19:01:31"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] Array.resize ?">
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  date="2003-05-10T20:25:35"
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  subject="Re: Sieve of Eratosthenes Performance: various languages (Re: [Caml-list] productivity improvement)">
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<msg 
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  from="John Max Skaller &lt;skaller@o...&gt;"
  author="John Max Skaller"
  date="2002-07-10T15:39:49"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] productivity improvement">
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  from="Nicolas barnier &lt;barnier@r...&gt;"
  author="Nicolas barnier"
  date="2002-07-11T08:57:10"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] productivity improvement">
</msg>
<msg 
  url="2002/07/b802813d2c7d950957fa291bf3aaf35f"
  from="John Max Skaller &lt;skaller@o...&gt;"
  author="John Max Skaller"
  date="2002-07-12T12:16:49"
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  from="Xavier Leroy &lt;xavier.leroy@i...&gt;"
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  date="2002-07-16T03:34:03"
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  url="2002/10/810cd5a8d6ef91878704c983300cf591"
  from="Eray Ozkural &lt;erayo@c...&gt;"
  author="Eray Ozkural"
  date="2002-10-18T08:36:36"
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&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;BTW OCaml functional programming and memory management are two ways of
&gt;increasing productivity. Pattern matching on structures is also wonderful.
&gt;For most of the programs, I will say that the productivity rate against C is
&gt;around 1:3.
&gt;
&gt;Nicolas Cannasse
&gt;
You must be an academic.:-) Try between 10:1 and 100:1,
*assuming* that any libraries you need are available,
and a reasonably complex piece of software.

You just can't underestimate how difficult it is to find
bugs in C codes of reasonable size. Such bugs almost never
happen in Ocaml. The biggest problem in Ocaml is type inference,
and the resulting loss of localisation of error diagnostics, but
such compile time errors can be resolved *definitely*;
that is, you know for sure when you've fixed them
(because the compiler stops hassling you).

Ohhhh.. just imagine if GTK/Gnome/Gui stuff on RH linux
were written in Ocaml .. it might actually work!

-- 
John Max Skaller, mailto:skaller@ozemail.com.au
snail:10/1 Toxteth Rd, Glebe, NSW 2037, Australia.
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