]> At 13:43 12/07/2002, Markus Mottl wrote: >I'd say that depending on the kind of the problem 1:3 >to 1:10 is reasonable and fits well to the experience of others. E.g., >the Erlang developers also report productivity gains in this range on >large-scale commercial projects. OCaml will most likely have similar >ratios. I find it unlikely that OCaml would increase productivity as much as Erlang. Erlang is designed primarily for concurrent programming (I believe). When people attempt concurrent programming in C, C++ or Java, they typically use primitive notions such as threads and locks. This is noticeably harder and more error-prone than sequential programming. Therefore any language that concentrates on this problem has more to gain than a primarily sequential language. AFAIK, OCaml uses threads and locks for concurrent programming, and so is no better in this respect than conventional languages (it could even be worse, depending on how its GC interacts with threads and distributed code). As a commercial manager, I've seen a productivity improvement of about 50% using Java over C++ -- mainly arising from automatic memory management, and a slightly cleaner language. I would expect OCaml to have that 50%, and perhaps another for a more expressive type system, making 2:1. For some problems, e.g. compilers, the increase might be more, say 3:1 or 4:1. For comparison, this is also the productivity improvement I'd expect to see using Visual Basic over C/C++ for small GUI/Database problems. Dave. ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners