<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>

<!DOCTYPE message PUBLIC
  "-//MLarc//DTD MLarc output files//EN"
  "../../mlarc.dtd"[
  <!ATTLIST message
    listname CDATA #REQUIRED
    title CDATA #REQUIRED
  >
]>

  <?xml-stylesheet href="../../mlarc.xsl" type="text/xsl"?>


<message 
  url="2003/07/0235d8bf220e9fe63e99b346ae379d7b"
  from="brogoff@s..."
  author="brogoff@s..."
  date="2003-07-03T16:55:32"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] subtyping, polymorphism, higher order types....."
  prev="2003/07/6a59432f708b13ca5d40751041049c7a"
  next="2003/07/f9cdfa31c48eb391a5653d4f59968d67"
  prev-in-thread="2003/07/49ed1832a167d71344f550f25717a45f"
  next-in-thread="2003/07/c6d81119241d5306bafb0f9bc21d61e9"
  prev-thread="2003/07/9d5c44985ef4846fa1879e4f91dc551f"
  next-thread="2003/07/c8147b1a3fde487932256f4013f9c14f"
  root="../../"
  period="month"
  listname="caml-list"
  title="Archives of the Caml mailing list">

<thread subject="[Caml-list] subtyping, polymorphism, higher order types.....">
<msg 
  url="2003/07/49ed1832a167d71344f550f25717a45f"
  from="Shaddin Doghmi &lt;shaddin@m...&gt;"
  author="Shaddin Doghmi"
  date="2003-07-03T14:33:27"
  subject="[Caml-list] subtyping, polymorphism, higher order types.....">
<msg 
  url="2003/07/0235d8bf220e9fe63e99b346ae379d7b"
  from="brogoff@s..."
  author="brogoff@s..."
  date="2003-07-03T16:55:32"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] subtyping, polymorphism, higher order types.....">
</msg>
<msg 
  url="2003/07/c6d81119241d5306bafb0f9bc21d61e9"
  from="Daniel Weil &lt;daniel.weil@a...&gt;"
  author="Daniel Weil"
  date="2003-07-04T06:43:23"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] subtyping, polymorphism, higher order types.....">
</msg>
<msg 
  url="2003/07/9265629f02a5161f666b1798bc5cc5e1"
  from="Vasile Rotaru &lt;vrotaru@s...&gt;"
  author="Vasile Rotaru"
  date="2003-07-04T21:31:54"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] subtyping, polymorphism, higher order types.....">
<msg 
  url="2003/07/6fb9d2897cba518cab99e18cea396c7a"
  from="Jacques Garrigue &lt;garrigue@k...&gt;"
  author="Jacques Garrigue"
  date="2003-07-05T02:21:17"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] subtyping, polymorphism, higher order types.....">
<msg 
  url="2003/07/0c7727744a42d1a2c9eeb08c4df40728"
  from="Fernando Alegre &lt;fernando@c...&gt;"
  author="Fernando Alegre"
  date="2003-07-05T07:46:55"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] subtyping, polymorphism, higher order types.....">
</msg>
<msg 
  url="2003/07/da08ccf0eadd794f5980a4f8a044d49e"
  from="Vasile Rotaru &lt;vrotaru@s...&gt;"
  author="Vasile Rotaru"
  date="2003-07-05T15:53:36"
  subject="Re: [Caml-list] subtyping, polymorphism, higher order types.....">
</msg>
</msg>
</msg>
</msg>
</thread>

<contents>
On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Shaddin Doghmi wrote:
&gt; In my experiences with ocaml, one of the major frustrations i constantly
&gt; run into is the lack of subtyping.

I don't find that a frustration, but you may have been doing OO for a long 
time. I tend to prefer non OO approaches now. 

&gt; However, there is still the issue of defining stuff such as "equality
&gt; types", "comparables", and such, allowing overloading of functions on
&gt; those. 

You'll be interested in G'Caml

	http://cristal.inria.fr/~furuse/generics/index.html

which will be updated after the release of 3.07. 

&gt; For example, when writing a large system with many datatypes, i
&gt; tend to find myself commenting each type definition with stuff like
&gt; "(*equality type*)",  to indicate to myself whether or not im allowed to
&gt; use the default = operator on that type(for example, a set type would
&gt; not get that annotation). 

You're always allowed to use default equality (inequality, comparison, hashing) 
so you may want to adopt a coding style that by default uses a module specific 
comparison. 

&gt; Another problem i run into is the inability to define parametric higher
&gt; order polymorphic types (is this the correct terminology?).. for
&gt; example. lets say i want to define the following type:
&gt; 
&gt; type 'a identifier = I of 'a *int | S of 'a*int
&gt; 
&gt; but, what if i want to restrict 'a to a narrower class of types (as
&gt; opposed to ad hoc types)... i would wish to say something like:
&gt; 
&gt; type 'identifiable identifier = I of 'a*int | S of 'a*int
&gt; 
&gt; where 'identifiable is a type class of some sort. I am not sure if
&gt; Haskell solves this problem using type classes(seems like it could),
&gt; Someone experienced in Haskell would probably know.

The workaround for higher-order type constructors is described here 

http://caml.inria.fr/archives/200302/msg00021.html

and a very simple modification of this idea (think module type Identifiable) 
gets pretty close to what I think you want. 

-- Brian


-------------------
To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr
Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/
Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners

</contents>

</message>

